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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Sep 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
John Jaeckel: Prospect Tourney Preview
Weakglovehand20
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Bloomingdale, IL
Joined: 07.19.2015

Sep 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
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Drgonzo399
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.30.2012

Sep 3 @ 2:28 PM ET
Let's hope a kid or two can step up to a full-time role.
CTblackhawkfan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hamden, CT
Joined: 06.14.2013

Sep 3 @ 2:44 PM ET
Thanks for update JJ,
I'm hoping a D or 2 shows some promise too.
Got to develop a few Defensemen
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 3 @ 4:10 PM ET
Let's hope a kid or two can step up to a full-time role.
- Drgonzo399


There is very little room for "youngens" and that would mean one of the young vets would be sent packing....
It is doubtful the two meatnpotatoes forwards Bouma & Wingels....they signed are leaving...the centre Dauphin can be shipped to Rockford w/o a wavier claim being called on him. Hayden too.
Jurco they would possibly lose if a team thinks he is worthy of a claim if he flops in the Windy City.

DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Sep 3 @ 4:18 PM ET
Happy Labor Day weekend all...
thanks for the updates JJ. We're just over a month away now from Puck drop. Cant' wait...certainly interested to see how the Hossa LTIR plays out as well as the new ads to the team.

On a somber note a sad bit of news today - Walter Becker from Steely Dan gone at 67...

https://www.nytimes.com/2...cker-dead-steely-dan.html

6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Sep 3 @ 4:33 PM ET
There is very little room for "youngens" and that would mean one of the young vets would be sent packing....
It is doubtful the two meatnpotatoes forwards Bouma & Wingels....they signed are leaving...the centre Dauphin can be shipped to Rockford w/o a wavier claim being called on him. Hayden too.
Jurco they would possibly lose if a team thinks he is worthy of a claim if he flops in the Windy City.

- wiz1901



If he flops would that be a bad thing? Easy way to get rid of him seems to me, what with them having to include another guy when they want to or have to get rid of someone.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 3 @ 4:53 PM ET



If Tomas Jurco flops would that be a bad thing? Easy way to get rid of him seems to me, what with them having to include another guy when they want to or have to get rid of someone.

- 6628


Agreed!

But I just keep think back to the junior days...maybe he thought the NHL was just gonna be as easy as riding a bike, but he didn't know the ride seem s downhill and really fast if you aren't prepared for the pace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlWqBjcY_s


Tomas Jurco the Magician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32aEQd8DcKU






wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 3 @ 4:57 PM ET
I have two spots open in a ten team Yahoo fantasy hockey Rotisserie league with a LIVE draft some evening close to before the season begins.

C, C, C, LW, LW, LW, RW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, BN, BN, IR+, IR+


Send me a PM with your email if you are interested and will play all season....
BlackhawkDown
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Peterborough, ON
Joined: 08.01.2012

Sep 3 @ 5:10 PM ET
Fortin is the main draw in my opinion, Debrincat has a ways to go still. There is 1 LW position available for Fortin to grab if he can bring what he did last camp. The rest are all going to Rockford or back to juniors....
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Sep 3 @ 5:26 PM ET
With as many touches and the way Bowman has set up the Swedish and European prospect review throughout their respective season, I am guessing this investment in a highly inordinate amount of Swedish & Euro prospects (compared to the other NHL teams) points to one conclusion: filling in your roster with cheap rookie talent makes the top end veteran players more "affordable" while those rookies need to play well at least a couple years to justify a larger contract. This is forward thinking. However, i feel it is more likely a forward or two breaks into the rotation (I am thinking more Mr Fortin) than most of those dman prospects. Kempny., Forsling, Ruuta represent players already here or just signed [Ruuta]; they will get more attention and have more pro experience.

For the first time in many years the Blackhawks appear to have everything in place to aid the development and scouting of the younger prospects- and that is exciting because there is a lot of talented prospets in the system. We are more familiar with the Krys, Carlsson, Snuggerud but there are others whom might be taking another step in development. Just to name one: Puollo (sic). And the encouraging news is that not only the touches made during season, but now if this talent line begins to ripen and pass through Rockford, there is better coaching in place at the AHL and even in Chicago the assistant coaches is improved.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Sep 3 @ 5:39 PM ET
I have two spots open in a ten team Yahoo fantasy hockey Rotisserie league with a LIVE draft some evening close to before the season begins.

C, C, C, LW, LW, LW, RW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, BN, BN, IR+, IR+


Send me a PM with your email if you are interested and will play all season....

- wiz1901


Good luck with the league!
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Sep 3 @ 5:40 PM ET
Does anyone know how to watch these prospect tourney games in Canada?
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 3 @ 6:45 PM ET
A part of me hope he pulls a Panik and finally turns it up a notch this season but another part of me isn't holding my breath, but it really would be nice if Jurco did elevate his game finally. That goal video reel from his rookie year shows his ability to score in the dirty areas around the goalie and (if paired with the right linemates) become a 20/15 or 20/20 forward. He could help solve the LW issue, something like:

Jurco - Anisimov - Kane
Sharp - Schmaltz - Hartman
(with Jurco and Sharp flip-flopping if needed)

Either way, if no rookie supremely impresses in training camp to take the LW opening (i.e. Fortin or DeBrincat), then Jurco and Tootoo seem to be defaulted as making the team to start the season (the latter as the 13th forward).

Dauphin will make a case for himself and could be in the starting lineup, i.e. challenging Kero for 4C.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 3 @ 6:48 PM ET
For the first time in many years the Blackhawks appear to have everything in place to aid the development and scouting of the younger prospects- and that is exciting because there is a lot of talented prospets in the system. We are more familiar with the Krys, Carlsson, Snuggerud but there are others whom might be taking another step in development. Just to name one: Puollo (sic). And the encouraging news is that not only the touches made during season, but now if this talent line begins to ripen and pass through Rockford, there is better coaching in place at the AHL and even in Chicago the assistant coaches is improved.
- jhawk59

Who is Puollo? The closest prospect I can think of is Finnish d-man Joni Tuulola.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Sep 3 @ 6:54 PM ET
Thanks for update JJ,
I'm hoping a D or 2 shows some promise too.
Got to develop a few Defensemen

- CTblackhawkfan

My money is on Press and Snuggerud as prospect tourney standouts on D. Not necessarily as making strong cases to make the Hawks out of training camp but at least to give the coaches a glimpse of blueliners who may be worth a call up later in the season after some more experience in Rockford.

As for forwards, my guess as to standouts at forward are Fortin, Highmore, and Bondra with a sleeper pick in Caron.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Sep 3 @ 9:15 PM ET
Anyone thinking there are any legit NHL prospects on that list that are anything more than bottom six forwards or bottom pair D guys at least a couple of years from now is engaged in a lot of wishful thinking.

After years of low tier draft picks we shouldnt expect anything more.

If only Bondra could amount to something......
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Sep 3 @ 9:37 PM ET
Agreed!

But I just keep think back to the junior days...maybe he thought the NHL was just gonna be as easy as riding a bike, but he didn't know the ride seem s downhill and really fast if you aren't prepared for the pace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlWqBjcY_s


Tomas Jurco the Magician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32aEQd8DcKU

- wiz1901

Detroit has to take some blame - mostly Blashill. If Babcock had continued to be his coach into his 3rd year (only his 2nd full one), Jurco may have continued to develop properly. Babcock seemed to have a plan of taking a pretty decent offensive guy and slowly playing him in more defensive role - kind of like how Q does with some kids, he did with Teravainen and even Schmaltz a little. Then Blashill took over with his terrible system (of which there were rumors that guys like Datsyuk disliked) and seemed to not care about certain guys (Sheahan took a step back too under Blashill).

Lots of things can stunt a player and bad coaching decisions can be one of them. Idk if that's totally it when it comes to Jurco, but it feels like it played a role. Now we just have to wait and see if Jurco can come back from that and be effective again - Rundblad never could, but Panik seems to be getting over his fall from grace in other orgs just fine.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Sep 3 @ 10:07 PM ET
Detroit has to take some blame - mostly Blashill. If Babcock had continued to be his coach into his 3rd year (only his 2nd full one), Jurco may have continued to develop properly. Babcock seemed to have a plan of taking a pretty decent offensive guy and slowly playing him in more defensive role - kind of like how Q does with some kids, he did with Teravainen and even Schmaltz a little. Then Blashill took over with his terrible system (of which there were rumors that guys like Datsyuk disliked) and seemed to not care about certain guys (Sheahan took a step back too under Blashill).

Lots of things can stunt a player and bad coaching decisions can be one of them. Idk if that's totally it when it comes to Jurco, but it feels like it played a role. Now we just have to wait and see if Jurco can come back from that and be effective again - Rundblad never could, but Panik seems to be getting over his fall from grace in other orgs just fine.

- L_B_R


Sheehan would be a great buy-low depth Center option for the Hawks.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Sep 3 @ 10:48 PM ET
Sheehan would be a great buy-low depth Center option for the Hawks.
- EnzoD

It probably depends on how Detroit sees their center situation. Zetterberg-Nielsen are locks, Larkin finished the season at center mostly (though Blashill seemed reluctant at times with him as a pivot). You'd also think they'd prefer not to sell low on Sheahan and bank on the fact that he won't shoot at below 2% again after being 10% or higher his other 3 seasons.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Sep 4 @ 2:13 AM ET
Agreed!

But I just keep think back to the junior days...maybe he thought the NHL was just gonna be as easy as riding a bike, but he didn't know the ride seem s downhill and really fast if you aren't prepared for the pace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWlWqBjcY_s


Tomas Jurco the Magician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32aEQd8DcKU

- wiz1901


Talent, size, hands, skill, skating, play in the opposing crease are not really questioned. You could even see that last yr with the Hawks but IMO the kid didn't understand his positioning. In open ice you could see he was hesitant/confused.

Besides playing in the WJC U-18 and U-20 tournaments and 2 WC tournaments for Slovakia, shows his talent all the way back to 17 yrs old, I like, and was surprised, he was a +34, +46 and +46 in his 3yrs in the QMJHL (makes me think he may have what it takes to be effective on a 3rd line).

Give the kid a full camp, coach him up to a defined role and see what you've got. Talent, size and skating are not the issue.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Sep 4 @ 5:40 AM ET
That is the player. I should have researched it - easy enough to do. My bad. Thanks for the name
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Sep 4 @ 6:15 AM ET
Coyotes extend Duclair at 1.2 million for 1 year.

He is someone I thought might be good for the Hawks speed/youth/cost movement. Hawks could have offer-sheeted him 1.5 and only parted with a 3rd rounder.

I know he is not big, and coming off a terrible year....but he has speed....some skill....and is just 22 years old. Oh, and he has played LW.

Oh well, just thought it was a low-risk kinda signing that would have been in the line of the Hawk moves this summer. And, another LW option for lines 2 or 3.

Thinking Stan must have some things already in the works for early October when the Hossa money frees up. Hope so anyway....
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Sep 4 @ 6:24 AM ET
Anyone thinking there are any legit NHL prospects on that list that are anything more than bottom six forwards or bottom pair D guys at least a couple of years from now is engaged in a lot of wishful thinking.

After years of low tier draft picks we shouldnt expect anything more.

If only Bondra could amount to something......

- Return of the Roar



Ya. Would love Bondra and Dahlstrom to improve their game enough to become useful NHLers. Dahlstrom would be a great 5-6 D-man if he could just improve some. Love the size of both guys. One extra massive body on the wing, and another on the "D" would be such a welcome treat. Yet, both have underwhelmed so far, and both need to make the move soon (at 20 and 22) or they will be career minor-leaguers. Likely that is what they both are, but would love to see them take a huge step forward in this tourny and show some potential of moving to the next level!!!

jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Sep 4 @ 9:28 AM ET
Tuulola, indeed, is the.prospect whose name I meant. Should have looked it up. My bad.
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